Queries

KNOWLES QUERIES

1 NOLES, Benjamin (c 1765 - 1845) - Benjamin Noles was living alone at the time of the 1790 Census in Wake Co., North Carolina on land he received in a 1788 land grant from the state of North Carolina (just south of Raleigh). Benjamin married Anna (nee unknown) in the late 1790s and migrated to Oglethorpe Co., Georgia where they raised a family (children: Rebecca, Jesse, Nancy, Martha, Elizabeth, Matthew, Alsey, Mary and Cynthia all born in Oglethorpe Co., Georgia). This family migrated again in 1821 to Lincoln Co., Tennessee. Benjamin Noles was probably a descendant of the Noles/Knowles family from the old Bute Co., North Carolina. Looking for documented proof concerning his parents.

Y-DNA test results indicate Benjamin Noles was a descendant of Peter Nowels (b 1716) from Baltimore, Maryland or an ancestor of said Peter Nowels. Peter Nowels is Knowles Maryland Progenitor #01. The Bute Co., North Carolina Noles / Knowles family may also have been descendants of Peter Nowels. Further DNA testing is required for the descendants of the Bute Co., North Carolina Noles / Knowles. (2nd paragraph posted 7/5/2007)

Robert B. Noles, rbnoles@bellsouth.net (posted 4/29/2005)

2 KNOWLES, Eliza (1847 - ????) - My great grandmother was Eliza Knowles, born in Trowbridge, England in 1847. She married Alfred Griffin, possibly in Trowbridge. Alfred was born in West Ashton, England in 1846. Eliza's father was John Knowles and her mother was Elizabeth Grey. Both of Eliza's parents were born in England.

Eliza and Alfred had six (6) known children; all born in England. Margaret born 1865; William born 1867 in Ebw Vale, Monmouth, England; Elizabeth Ellen born 1870, Dingles, Huntington, Hereford, England; Alfred born 1871 in Huntington, Hereford, England; Annie born 1873, Forkly, England; Florence M. J. born 1879, North Bradley, Wiltshire England. Eliza and Alfred immigrated to the the U.S. in 1887 with most of the children, and seemed to travel back and forth from Massachusetts to Florida. Looking for connections to the Knowles families in England.

Judy, needavaca02@aol.com (posted 4/29/2005)

3 KNOWLES, Byron LaFayette (1885 - aft 1960??) - I would like to learn about the burial location for Byron LaFayette Knowles, my grandfather.

When the depression hit, as a lot men during that time, my grandfather starting leaving his home (Wellington, Texas) (Wellington, the county seat of Collingsworth County, is on U.S. Highway 83 in the south central part of the county) looking for work and would return and then leave again. Byron had five sons and three daughters. One of the daughters died in 1917 when she was seven.

It was during one of Byron's absences that his youngest daughter died. Upon returning home, the family said the grief just overwhelmed him. He came back once after that, but never returned again until around the early 1960's. Byron never told the family where he had been living and he later disappeared again.

Byron said when he came back one time, that time had passed and he kept meaning to come back, but the longer he was gone, the harder it was to come back.

All of this to say that his one living daughter and one living son do not know where Byron is buried. If any one comes across information concerning Byron LaFayette Knowles, I would appreciate knowing hearing from you.

Joy Porter, rporterpapa@comcast.net (posted 7/19/2005)

4 NOLES, George (b c 1755) - I am searching for descendants of the following people:

George NOLES (b c 1765) (SC Pro #03) - Lived in Cheraw District, South Carolina in 1790 and Darlington District, South Carolina in 1800 and 1810. George is believed to have married Nancy. His possible sons include:

James NOLES (b c 1790, died between 1840 and 1850) (SC Pro #01). James is believed to have married Deliah.

Edward (or Edmund) NOLES (b c 1799 - moved to Tennessee before 1830) (SC Pro #04); married Betsy Matthews; children include Elizabeth Jane, Eliza Ann, Mahala, J.W.H., George, Malinda, Joseph K., Robert E. and David Wilson.

Also looking for descendants of Madison KNOWLES (b 1841 - d 12/1/1914) who married to Serena Rogers. Their sons were:

Elijah Pinkney KNOWLES (9/6/1877 - 6/25/1923 in Aiken Co., South Carolina); married Genie Burger; their daughter was Beatrice (KNOWLES) Smith (b c 1907).

James Ashton KNOWLES (1882 - 4/16/1919).

Any knowledge concerning these South Carolina KNOWLES and NOLES families would be appreciated.

Nancy Meissner, birdnan@roadstarinternet.net (posted 3/14/2006)

5 KNOWLES, Squire (b 1788) - I am searching for the ancestry of Squire KNOWLES, born c 1786 in Massachusetts and died in Hamden, Delaware Co., New York in 1857. Squire's wife was Dorothy Howland. Squire is possibly the brother of Jacob KNOWLES who was listed in the 1800 Census in Milford area of Otsego Co., New York. Another brother might be Icabod KNOWLES born c 1787 in Massachusetts, who was later in Coyuta, Schuyler Co., New York.

Two descendants of Squire KNOWLES have obtained a Y-DNA genetic genealogy test. Other descendants of Squire and his brothers should be tested to assist with the research for this KNOWLES line.

Any knowledge concerning Squire KNOWLES would be appreciated.

Ruth Armstrong, armstrong@silcon.com (posted 4/2/2006)

6 KNOWLES, Hulda (b 1835) - I need information on Hulda Knowles (1835 - 1888) from Gibson Co., Indiana, daughter of Archibald Knowles (1810 - 1849) and Elizabeth Betsy Wilson (1812 - 1839). Hulda married 11 September 1860 to Alvis (Alvin) Olery (aka Ultrik, Walrick, Uldridge, Ulrigg). Alvis was born in Germany circa 1835, died circa 1870. Hulda’;s second husband was Charles Zengler.

I need information on the children of Archibald Knowles (1810 - 1849) and Elizabeth Betsy Wilson (1812 - 1839). Elizabeth was the daughter of Joshua Wilson (1775 - 1839) and Comfort Marvel Knowles (1790 - 1868).

Jane N. Haburchak, rhaburch@wtp.net (posted 7/5/2007)

7 NOWELS, John (b 1769) - John Nowels b 10 Mar 1769, Frederick Co., Maryland. Died 21 May 1865, Jasper Co., Indiana. Buried in Prichard Cemetery, Jasper Co., Indiana. Married Hetty Wolgamot 20 April 1802 in Belmont Co., Ohio. Hetty b c 1770; died late 1830, Fountain Co., Indiana. Seeking documented proof of parents of John Nowels. Unproven family history indicates James Nowels an early settler of Belmont Co., Ohio as possibly being the father of John.

Gloria Strott, Evansville, IN (posted 7/5/2007)

Gloria, I believe the Y-DNA test results (already posted) for a descendant of your John Nowels and for a descendant of John’s brother, James B. Nowels are an important step towards the proof you seek.

R. B. Noles, rbnoles@bellsouth.net (posted 7/5/2007)

8 KNOWLES, Robert Forrest (b 1864) -

I would like to know more about Robert F. Knowles and his wife Melissa Solomon. This is what I know about them: Robert F. Knowles b 1864 in Elmore Co., Alabama, married 1890 in Bastrop Co., Texas to Melissa Solomon born about 1867 in Alabama. The children of Robert and Melissa Knowles are:

1) Jessie Woodson Knowles, b 1891,

2) Virginia Ola Knowles, b 1 2 November 1892 *

3) William (Watin) Knowles, b 1894,

4) Otress Knowles, b 1 March 1895

5) John Knowles, b 29 December 1896

6) Henrietta Knowles, b 1898

7) Leonard Knowles, b 1900

8) Lulu Knowles, b 12 April 1903

9) Percival Knowles, b 1905

10) Corey Knowles, b 1905

11) Lottie Knowles, b 1906

12) Robert Knowles, b 1908

All children were born in Bastrop Co, Texas

* Married Lee Moriel Bennight 8 March 1913 in Bastrop, TX

I do not know if this family moved anywhere. Thank you!

Michele (Johnson) Hand, mlhand3@hotmail.com

great granddaughter of Virginia Ola Knowles (posted 7/5/2007)

Michele, Robert Forrest and Melissa (Solomon) Knowles and many of their children removed from Bastrop Co., Texas to Elmore Co., Alabama before 1920. They can be found in the 1920 Elmore County Census and in the 1930 Tallapoosa Co., Alabama Census.

Robert Forrest Knowles was a son of Jonathan A. Knowles and the 3rd great grandson of Edmund “Old Silverhead” Knowles (Delaware Knowles Progenitor #01.

A Y-DNA test of a descendant of Jonathan A. Knowles has confirmed that he is a descendant of the “Old Silverhead” Knowles line.

R. B. Noles, rbnoles@bellsouth.net (posted 7/5/2007)

9 KNOWLES, John (b 1783) - My furthest back Knowles ancestor is John Knowles who was born in 1783 in Indiana. He married Ascenth Ellis in 1820 in Shelby Co., Kentucky.

John and Ascenth moved to Logansport, Cass Co., Indiana, where my great grandfather, Thomas Jefferson Knowles was born in 1837. John Knowles died in Effingham Co., Illinois in 1851. Thomas died in 1921 in Riverside Co., California after having lived a long time in Chanute, Neasha Co., Kansas. Thomas was a farmer and a carpenter. My grandfather, John William Knowles was born in St. Louis, Missouri and lived in St. Louis until 1919, when he removed to California. He died in 1958 in Oakland, Alameda Co., California. My mother was the youngest daughter of John William Knowles who died in 1958 in Oakland. I have not been able to get my line back beyond the first John Knowles in 1783. I have not found any records of him in Indiana as yet.

Nancy Jean (Meng) Ward, cyberquilter@cox.net (posted 7/5/2007)

Nancy, your best bet to determine the Knowles line for your ancestor, John Knowles, b 1783 in Indiana, is to have a Knowles grandson of your grandfather’s brother Milton Riley Knowles (1910 - 1979) participate in the Knowles Surname DNA Project. I believe Milton had at least four sons, who would all be eligible to be tested as a part of the Knowles Surname DNA project.

It is very likely that a descendant of the Knowles ancestor for your John Knowles has already been tested. If so, I can probably identify your Knowles line as one of the many Knowles lines documented to ancestors before the American Revolutionary War, with some dating back to the 17th century.

R. B. Noles, rbnoles@bellsouth.net (posted 7/5/2007)

10 KNOWLES, Samuel Hamilton (b 1821) -

Would anyone know where my 2nd great grandparents Samuel Hamilton and Matilda (Montgomery) Knoles are buried?

I have a death date on Samuel of 23 July 1865 in Menard Co., Illinois, but no death information on Matilda or a burial location on either of them.

Donald D. Golden, d_golden@sbcglobal.net

Don, I found Samuel Hamilton Knoles buried in the Irish Grove Cemetery, near Middletown, Illinois.

Samuel H. Knoles

Died: December 18, 1865 (48y 8m 29d)

Co. G 38 Ill. Inf.

This Irish Grove Cemetery is located 1 1/2 miles southwest of Middletown, Illinois in Menard County. Follow Rte. 29 North to Greenview and turn right on the Middletown Black Top road. Go 6.8 miles and you will see Freedom Road. Turn right on to Freedom Road and go 1/2 mile to a "T" road. Turn left at the "T" road and go 0.3 miles to the cemetery which is located on the left side of the road. This is a beautiful cemetery and very well kept. It goes back quite a distance and at the very back of the cemetery is a very old section.

R. B. Noles, rbnoles@bellsouth.net (posted 7/5/2007)

11 KNOWLES, John W., R.S. (1749 Ireland - 1838 White Co., Tennessee)
Tennessee Knowles Progenitor #02 (White Co.)

I was sorry to see that so much confusion exists (Internet postings) about the marriage of John W. Knowles, b. 1749 and progenitor for the White County, Tennessee Knowles family. Some show him marrying in Ireland and some show him marrying in Pennsylvania.

One thing is clear from PRIMARY sources in Pennsylvania, that "some" John Knowles married a Hannah Preston in Pennsylvania and not in Ireland. IF you believe that the White Co., Tennessee John Knowles married Hannah Preston, then it follows that you have to believe that he married in Pennsylvania. It would be totally incorrect to say that John Knowles married Hannah Preston in Ireland. The marriage is of RECORD in Pennsylvania.

I personally do not know if our John married in Ireland or in Pennsylvania, but IF John Knowles of White County history did marry Hannah Preston, he married her in Pennsylvania on March 21, 1770. I hope everyone can agree and correct any records you may have to show that the 1770 occurred in Pennsylvania and NOT in Ireland. The marriage record can be obtained from Pennsylvania.

The second point is this: Did the John Knowles born in 1749 marry Hannah Preston or did some other John Knowles marry Hannah? Does anyone have proof on this? There were other John Knowles in Pennsylvania at the time.

Additionally, it is well-known locally in White Co., Tennessee that John's wife was called Mollie. So...was this Mollie really named Mary (Mollie) Hannah Preston or was Mollie a totally different person from Hannah Preston?

Those who find this of interest need to clarify these points if possible by research of marriage and immigration records to see if anyone came with John from Ireland and to determine which John Knowles Hannah Preston married.

Will anyone volunteer to pursue either of these issues or suggest HOW to research these points? Are immigration records available from Ireland for the time period BEFORE 1770? Has anyone searched for a Hannah (Preston) Knowles in Pennsylvania or other areas during the same time period that Mollie was living with John in White County, Tennessee?

It seems to me that these issues need to be clarified by serious Knowles researchers. Please clarify the location of the 1770 marriage information to any of your Knowles correspondents as well to help clear up that info.

Jane (Hembree) Crowley, JaneCr@aol.com
Robert B. Noles, rbnoles@bellsouth.net (posted June 18, 2008)

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